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M.W.Muiru's avatar

"That framing assumes science is just a method, a procedure for extracting truths from nature."

It also assumes science is not deeply dependent on the ability to experience and observe the world. And sure, eventually AI will be given senses in the form cameras and sensors, but is that enough?

Could a robot look an an apple falling from a tree and think, why is this apple falling and not going up?

Yes, Newton already discovered that but I have always felt deeply that science is not so much about all the available information (AIs bread and butter) it is about observing and and experiencing the world, then asking questions.

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Sanjeeb Kumar Jena's avatar

Science at its root is something like: systematic inquiry into the nature of things, guided by some method of testing claims against experience or observation.

But what we call "science" today is actually many things layered on top of each other:

1. Fundamental inquiry — the original impulse to understand

2. Method refinement — ways of asking questions that yield reliable knowledge

3. Institutional infrastructure — universities, journals, peer review, funding

4. Performance engineering — optimization, scalability, efficiency, replication

5. Technological application — turning knowledge into capability

These layers aren't the same thing. And increasingly, AI as researcher operates primarily in layers 4-5, sometimes touching layer 2, rarely engaging layer 1

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Sanjeeb Kumar Jena's avatar

Is AI doing "legitimate research"? The answer depends on what layer of science you're asking about:

---Layer 4-5 (optimization, application): Yes, AI is already a legitimate and often superior researcher

---Layer 2 (method refinement): Partially — AI can suggest new techniques but rarely invents new kinds of techniques

--- Layer 1 (fundamental inquiry): Not yet — AI hasn't demonstrated the capacity to reframe what counts as a question worth asking

The deeper issue is: Modern science itself operates mostly in layers 2-5. The original impulse — What is this? Why does it exist? What does it mean? — has been largely outsourced to philosophy (and even there, marginalized).

So when we ask "Is AI a legitimate researcher?", we should also ask: "Has modern science itself remained true to the root impulse of human inquiry?"

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Dan SoF's avatar

this statement seems a bit myopic " 90% of all scientists who have ever lived are alive today (de Solla Price)" ... see https://grow.scienceoffreedom.life/pages/doorwaytofreedom

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